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    June 27

    Pretsedenditsitaat

    Üks viimaseid Riigikohtu lahendeid klassifitseerib kaklusi osapoolte kokkuleppel toimuvateks ja .. eee... spontaanseteks?

    Samas leiab kolleegium, et rünne algas juba süüdistatava ähvardamisega S. J.-i poolt klubi juures laua taga pingil, jätkus rusikaga näkku löömisega ning kulmineerus lühikese ajavahemiku järel puust teibaga ründamisega tee peal. Sellest järeldub, et tegemist ei olnud osapoolte kokkuleppel toimunud kaklusega, mis välistaks hädakaitseseisundi esinemise.


    June 03

    Teeme ise 1000 asja: Netipetuskeem - lolli püüa edeva autoga mobile.de-st

    Kuna hakkan lubade peatse omandamise mõttega üha enam harjuma, oleks ka neljarattalist sõpra vaja.  Seda sõprust otsides sain aga erakordselt meeliülendava kogemuse võrra rikkamaks, ning ei pea seda paljuks teistegagi jagada.

    Asi algas mobile.de-st leitud autokuulutusega, mille edastajaks Frank Dornay, e-mail bell.car11@yahoo.com 
    milles müüdi tõelist iludust tõsiselt väikese hinnaga.

    Alfa Romeo GT 2.0 JTS Selespeed Distinctive Coupe  09/2005 

    32.800 km Benzin  121/165 (kW/PS)  Automatik  Schwarz Metallic   Fahrzeugausstattung: ABS Airbag Alufelgen Beifahrer Airbag Bordcomputer Elektr. Fensterheber elektr. Stabilitätsprog. (ESP) Elektrische Sitze Klima Klimaautomatik Lederausstattung Navigationssystem Nebelscheinwerfer Park Distance Control  Radio Radio/CD Seitenairbags Servolenkung Sitzheizung Tempomat Traktionskontrolle Wegfahrsperre Zentralverriegelung

     Exklusiv Ledersportsitze rot mit Sitzheizung, Klimaautomatik, Großes Navigationssystem mit GSM Telefon, Radio CD, Bose Soundsystem mit  Hochleistungslautsprecher und Subwoofer, Antriebs-Schlupfregelung (ASR), Audio-/Telefonbedienung am Lenkrad, Außenspiegel, beide elektr. verstellbar + heizbar, Bordcomputer / Check-Control, Drehzahlmesser, Einparkhilfe elektronisch, Fensterheber elektrisch vorn, Geschwindigkeits-Regelanlage (Tempomat), Gurtstraffer, Kopf-Airbag-System, Lendenwirbelstütze an Sitz vorn links und rechts, Lenkrad , Lenksäule (Lenkrad) höhenverstellbar, LM-Felgen 18 Zoll, Metallic-Lackierung, Mittelarmlehne hinten, Mittelarmlehne vorn, Motor 2, 0 Ltr. - 122 kW JTS 16V KAT, Service bei 31,5 tkm gemacht, MwSt. ausweisbar

    Hind oli 5500 EUR'i.


    Järgnev kirjavahetus:
    Mina
    Hello!
    I would like to ask about this car of yours, Alfa Romeo Alfa GT 2.0 JTS Selespeed Distinctive, on sale.  Is the price 5500 EUR  a total price, or it includes overtaking leasing contract, or any other conditions, which may alter this price.
    Also, has the car suffered in any accident?

    Hope to hear from you really soon,
    sincerely,

    Tema
    Hi,

    I am originary from London, United Kingdom.
    I had a work contract in Berlin and I needed a car so I bought this one. I have to sell it because I have moved back to UK and it's quite hard to drive an european car with the steering wheel on the left side. The car is now in London in excellent condition, no accidents, no scratches, no dents, no need for additional repairs and I have all the necessary documents ( german documents ) to make the sale. This is a garage kept car, very well maintained. The last price is EUR 5500 including shipping and insurance. I agree to leave you few days for testing.
    - the car comes with a clean history log and the certificate of registration.
    - being registered in Germany it will be no problem to cancel it's registration and transfer it to you. I have spoken with one of my friends in Germany and he said there is no need for me to come over there to close the deal in person because there are many shipping companies that can handle this kind of situations. So I have done a little research work and found out a local shipping company. I have asked them how much it will cost for such transaction and they have told me to come up with the delivery address (so they can calculate the shipping fees).
    In case you are still interested please let me know the address where you want it to be delivered so that the shipping company can calculate the total cost.

    Thank you

    Kuulutus kadus samal ajal mobile.de-st, kui ma olin saanud kirjale vastuse.

    Mina
    Hi,

    Thank you for your answer! 
    Could you please send me once again the contents of the sales-ad  (with photos), as it is already removed from mobile.de, so that I could give those details for my delivering company.

    Also, could you please provide me the VIN code of your car?

    Originally I am not from Germany, but from Estonia, and I am  very interested of buying your Alfa.
    Right now I am trying to arrange the pickup from Germany.  I think,  Hamburg (Germany) would be the best (and closest) place to ship the car, so that you could calculate delivering costs.  Is this OK?

    Sincerely,

    Tema
    hi ,

     Sorry but I won't send the vin number . I sent the vin number and the scanned paper to an other buyer and he liste my car on an other web site .

    I can ship the car to your home dor if you want . Think about it and let me know .

    (lisandusid auto detailid ja pildid, mis olid olnud kuulutuses)

    Mina
    Hi again,

    I am totally interested in buying your car, and I can manage transportation on my own, there is no need  for you to acquire shipping conditions et cetera.
    I just have two more questions:
    Do you have small and big service history (kleine und groBe briefung) on your car?
    Is it possible, that you could drive up to Cambridge, and show the car to one of my acquintances who is currently working there (he will be flying home soon in June).  If this is possible, I will gladly provide  further information.

    all the best,

    Tema
    Hi there,
     
     I have small service history .

     I am very sorry but I will not do this deal if I will not use the shipping company. I really can't understand you why you don't want to do the deal this way .. it is a very fast and easy way it will save a lot of time for me and for you. Also you can check the company at http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vieshome.do?selectedLanguage=EN with our company VAT No: GB 751 0081 71 and with the Company No. 05511272 at http://www.checksure.biz/.

     From this point of view you can see that the company is OK and it doesn't have any problems.

     I also wanted to tell you that in 2003 I was selling a car like this I worked in Bulgaria and I brought the car from there.. I posted it on the Internet and I meet someone to sell it ..my bad luck was that the buyer didn't want a good transaction he wanted the car and the money .. he tried to stole the car from me... It was a nightmare .. I was lucky because one police saw as and I contrive to run.

     So I hope that was my last experience of this kind and I will not do it again ... I prefer to use this company because it is safer and it also saves a lot of time.
    I also want to tell you that I have a lot of offers for this car and I will not sell it in any other way then using this company.

    If you decide to use this way you can contact me any time.
    Mina
    Hello,

    Your last answer met my  suspicions about this 'nice deal'.

    Neither do I believe that you ever worked in Berlin nor do I believe you ever bought that car, furthermore I am totally convinced that this Alfa Romeo GT  most probably does not even exist.

    You do not provide VIN, without any normal reason, nor do you possess any documentation on 'your car'. You also refuse to present the car to potential buyer.

    Furthermore, your details on 'reliable shipping company' verify only the fact, that company has been registered on  EU's VAT registry, it does not provide any information about actual business activity.  The second query shows a card from commercial registry, with almost non-existent contacts and data about last commercial registry transactions dating back to 2006.

    Pathetic story about Bulgaria does not have even one bit of truth in it, and lacks in grammar as well as in contents.

    Additional fact, that you removed the sales ad as soon as you received my e-mail, verifies that you intentionally did expect first interested person to come forward, so that  you will not leave any evidence of fraud you were planning to commit.
     
    So, therefore I conclude my letter with the simplest and purest condolences to your non-existant 'other buyers'  as well as sharing my pleasant internet business-experience with press.

    Worst,


    Sellega lõpeb minu neljarattalise sõbra saamise esimene lugu.  Saaga jätkub.

    SIC! Kui kellelegi tundub minu kogemusega sarnane autoostuolukord tekkivat, luban lahkelt ilma igasuguse copyright'ita oma nastygram'i kasutada!


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